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Elsa Stevenson's avatar

I too concur with most of what has been said but also find the need to refine some of the terms proposed in the text, especially in order to keep the question open: How does a 14 year old of today or tomorrow recognise and indeed take interest in a saint?

What constitutes human flourishing? I agree that a saint is the remarkable, rare example of a blossomed human being. But not because he/she is “good”. I find such viewpoint still tied to the moral canons that most churches frame the mystery of becoming.

To say that saints are able to “Place God before humanity” is perhaps not sufficiently inclusive. Yes in the sense of daring to transcend the societal norms of the day; the common sense and above all the fear that has many humans in fetters. But “ God before humanity” might continue to propagate a false disjunction between “human” and “divine” (often reinforced by religious doctrines).

In my understanding humanity is not a static reality nor is is antithetical with the divine. A saint is one who is less in a quest for being good, but in a quest for Being, including overcoming limits, unraveling potentials, cross over chasms and give herself/himself to insane amounts of love. Including one for humanity. That radical.

If I was told, when I was 14, about such people, that they were as good and able as myself and everyone else I knew, only perhaps forerunners exceptionally curious and eager, i would be interested. If, furthermore, I was given the tools to perceive the energetic beauty that certain people exude on account of being who they are (no tricks of rhetoric) then I would have been inwardly moved.

I agree, saints will come, even “in the desert” of the dispossessed.

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Jack Leahy's avatar

If Christianity doesn`t offer a clear path to radically transformation oneself--even knowing that only a few will ever walk it--then it is already slowly dying. I grew up without a faith or even seeing the need for it. It just wasn't something I considered. The times I did attend, mainly with friends, it always seemed like an odd thing to do.

But a life of exclusive humanism and trying to fake authenticity was largely a disaster. The shiny promises of all the ever proliferating secular therapies and diversions failed.

I type this in a monastery seeking that more radical path. I think there is a turn happening in our civilization. Small and slow, but a turn. If so, how does Taylor explain that?

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